Civil Asset Forfeiture: Police can seize your belongings on mere suspicion, and it’s ridiculously difficult and expensive to get anything back even if charges are dropped.

NYPD claims they can’t track and document all the shit they seize… basically saying they shouldn’t have to even try.

You get pulled over with a wad of cash, and a bag of weed. You must be a major drug dealer! Not a mechanical engineer returning home from selling your Honda Civic. The fight to get that $1900 back is so long and expensive, it’s not worth it. Guys, this is purely hypothetical situations, something I thought many of us could relate to. It’s NOT me. I’ve never had anything seized from the police. A close friend did once, tho, in a similar situation. He had cash from selling a car and from legit paychecks – cash he intended to buy a Civic with. A drug task force seized all of it, along with his father’s many guns (he was a Vietnam War Vet). They did find a few hundred dollars worth of an illegal plant – Marijuana. They did $1000′s worth of damage. The guns were eventually returned; the cash was not returned despite spending $10k on a lawyer. The damage was almost all entirely unnecessary. But read the articles – the entire point is that no crime needs to have been committed. **

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The NYPD admits that their attempts at tracking and documenting the shit they seize are laughable.

http://on.rt.com/78f5

http://on.rt.com/7ppl

This is a widely covered story. There are many news agencies that have covered something about this questionable practice. I encourage all of you to do your own research and come to their own conclusions, but here are a few more.

http://buffalonews.com/2016/10/18/another-voice-civil-asset-seizures-abuse-property-rights/

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/the-nypds-civil-forfeiture-system-has-taken-millions-from-low-income-new-yorkers-8960652

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John Oliver did a great piece on it:

https://youtu.be/3kEpZWGgJks

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I look at it like this:

Some cops – not even the “bad ones” necessarily – are essentially armed thieves that you can’t fight back against. You have *NO* recourse, short of spending many 1000′s of dollars over a period of months, perhaps even years, if you ever want reclaim what is often legally yours. There are so many horror stories of what has happened to law-abiding citizens – people who didn’t even have a gram or two (or hell, an ounce or two) of weed. People who were just taken in under “suspicion” to fatten the police coffers.

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Don’t take my word for it. Please.

Their motivation seems pretty clear. Their responses in the NYPD articles lately are insulting to me. They almost seem to act like it’s a burden to them, that we should be grateful for the “transparency” they currently use.

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Most cops *ARE* awesome public servants.

Unfortunately, the criminal “justice” system is imperfect to say the least. The incentives are all wrong. Ambitious officers go after what gets them recognition, and promotions. We want good, ambitious officers, but it’s hard to see where “justice” is the focus in certain aspects of our system. Acquiring valuable assets is highly encouraged. Giving them back to their rightful owner doesn’t seem to be a high priority.

Unfortunately, the criminal “justice” system is imperfect to say the least. The incentives are all wrong. Ambitious officers go after what gets them recognition, and promotions. We want good, ambitious officers, but it’s hard to see where “justice” is the focus in certain aspects of our system. Acquiring valuable assets is highly encouraged. Giving them back to their rightful owner doesn’t seem to be a high priority.

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Still, we’re in this together.

Police really do serve and protect us. IMO, it’s not the individual LEO’s that are the problem. It’s the system they’re confined to (just like us). It’s their training. It’s the reasons why they *HAVE* to carry firearms in the first place; the why they have to be seize stuff in the first place: the real criminals. My hometown, a small to medium sized Upstate NY city of Syracuse, has had 2 black men killed by police in just the last 6 months… oh, but they were both lifelong criminals with serious rap sheets, both were armed with illegal firearms, both had been to prison within last few years. In both situations the police officers were in real danger, and it would’ve been irresponsible for them to not respond with serious force. One dude shot at the police (fortunately, the types of people who shoot at police with illegal handguns are typically very poor marksmen! The police are typically excellent marksmen, and women, as was the case in one of these shootings!)

Edit: Be good decent to one another! Be respectful to police, and to each other!

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